Win And Place Bet
Y You can make a Place bet on any of the point numbers, which are the 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10. As with most other bets on the table, the Place bet plays against the 7. Therefore, once you make a Place bet, the only numbers that mean anything in terms of winning or losing are the number you bet. With an Each Way (EW) bet, half of your stake goes on a win, and half of it goes on a place. If the horse wins both bets win, but if the horse comes second or third, then the win bet loses but the place pays. With a Place bet, the bet wins the same amount of money.
- An each-way bet is a wager offered by bookmakers consisting of two separate bets: a win bet and a place bet. For the win part of the bet to give a return, the selection must win, or finish first, in the event. For the place part of the bet to give a return, the selection must either win or finish in one of the predetermined places for the event, such as first place or second place.
- The cost of a Win / Place bet is $1 for one full unit, i.e. 100% of the relevant dividend. A punter can take as many units as they like, subject to the gambling agency being prepared to take on liability for the bet. The more units a punter takes, the more the bet will cost.
- These bets are somewhat simple. There are actually two different types of place bets. One is called place bet to win and the other is place bet to lose.Essentially, these are bets.
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These bets are somewhat simple. There are actually two different types of place bets. One is called place bet to win and the other is place bet to lose. Essentially, these are bets that may be wagered at any time during the round. The numbers that can be wagered on are 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 10. If you wager a 'place to win' bet, then you must roll that number before rolling a seven. If you make a 'place to lose' bet, then you must roll a seven before rolling that number.
The payouts are actually quite good in this bet. In fact, they are nearly the same as true odds but usually slightly less. The actual odds of throwing a 4 and 10 are 2:1, the odds for 5 and 9 are 3:2 and the odds of throwing 6 and 8 are 6:5. The payouts are 9:5 for rolling a 4 or 10, 7:5 after rolling 5 or 9 and 7:6 for rolling a 6 or 8. As you can see here, the payouts are slightly lower than true odds. The house edge for place 4 and place 10 is 6.67%, the house edge for place 5 and place 9 is 4.00% and the house edge for place 6 and place 8 is a very nice 1.57%.
I tried to provide a screenshot of different place bets below. The first thing to do is look for the top roll with the numbers 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 10. Above and below each of these numbers are spots labeled 'lose' and 'win' along with the payout for each 'place bet'. These are where you make your different place bets on the craps table layout. One thing to remember is not all casinos offer these bets. Many online casinos do but many land based casinos do not. Also, the odds can be slightly different depending on the casino rules.
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1. How Often Does a Horse Run a Place?
Over the years, I’ve had a number of punters ask me about place betting strategies and whether they are likely to win. On the surface it seems like a good idea to find horses that you really like to win and then back them to place. You will enjoy more regular collects, turn what would have been some losing days into winning days and the profits will slowly accumulate, right?
Bet To Win Place And Show
Unfortunately, what is good in theory doesn’t often translate to practice and that’s certainly the case with place betting. The reality is that on average, the value in place betting markets is significantly less than win betting markets and is therefore much more difficult to profit from.
Win Place Show Bet
To properly analyse the merits of place betting you first need to understand how often a horse that has a certain chance of winning, will actually run a place.Consider an example where you like a horse in the market at $6.00 and believe it’s closer to a $4.80 or $5.00 chance. Do you know how often this horse can be expected to run a place?
In the example above, assuming your $4.80 to $5.00 assessed price is correct, you can expect the horse to run a place (1st to 3rd) 52% – 53% of the time.It’s easy to think that you like a horse so much and feel so confident about its chance of winning, that it’s almost certain to run a place, but the reality is far different.
The table below shows the historical place strike rate of horses based on their true win price / actual win percentage.
Win Place Bet Calculator
True Win Price | Actual Win % | Actual Place % |
---|---|---|
$2.00 | 50.0% | 81.0% |
$2.00 | 40.0% | 74.0% |
$3.00 | 33.3% | 68.0% |
$4.00 | 25.0% | 59.0% |
$5.00 | 20.0% | 52.0% |
$7.50 | 13.3% | 41.0% |
$10.00 | 10.0% | 34.0% |
$15.00 | 6.7% | 26.0% |
$21.00 | 4.8% | 20.5% |
$26.00 | 3.8% | 17.0% |
$31.00 | 3.2% | 15.5% |
$51.00 | 2.0% | 10.5% |
Note: This does not mean that a horse $5.00 in the market has a 52% place chance.
On average horses at $5.00 in the market only win approximately 18% of the time, not 20%. They’re true win price is closer to $5.50, which means they will run a place approximately 49.5% of the time.Once you have an understanding of the expected place strike rate for a horse’s true winning chance, you can work out the correct place price.
Two Place Prices
Actual Win % | True Win Price | Actual Place % | True Place Price |
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50.0% | $2.00 | 81.0% | $1.23 |
40.0% | $2.50 | 74.0% | $1.35 |
33.3% | $3.00 | 68.0% | $1.47 |
25.0% | $4.00 | 59.0% | $1.69 |
20.0% | $5.00 | 52.0% | $1.92 |
13.3% | $7.50 | 41.0% | $2.44 |
10.0% | $10.00 | 34.0% | $2.94 |
6.7% | $15.00 | 26.0% | $3.85 |
4.8% | $21.00 | 20.5% | $4.88 |
3.8% | $26.00 | 17.0% | $5.88 |
3.2% | $31.00 | 15.5% | $6.45 |
2.0% | $51.00 | 10.5% | $9.52 |
Example: If you assess that a horse’s real chance of winning 20%, then it’s true win price should be $5.00 and its true place price should be $1.92